He’s At It Again!
Brick Stone (AKA comedian Dave Sirus) has made a name for himself in many ways, but the one that is most relevant to quite a few conversations I have had recently is that he constantly lampoons the Westboro Baptist Church. For those who may not be familiar with the WBC, they are a known “religious” group with no pragmatic or rational foundation other than the misuse of God’s word and adhering to false-gospel.
I received an email from Mr. Stone a few days ago, in which he asked if I would share his latest video with you guys. Well, of course I agreed, but I also had a few thoughts upon the matter that I wanted to pose to him as well. My views on the constant exposure we give the WBC has changed in the last 6 months or so, and I wanted to get his thoughts on the situation.
I asked Brick if he was up to do a quick interview, and being the complete gentleman I now know him to be, he most certainly obliged.
Be sure to check out Brick’s new video from Celebration high school in Florida, following the interview. Also, let me know your thoughts in the comments. It is a touchy subject that I’m sure a lot of you have a strong opinion about.
Bring it on home, Brick.
JM: Hey, Brick. Thanks for doing this. Let’s get right to it and start off with a few serious questions: Where are you from, why do you hate that place, your horribly abusive family and why do you hate God? Please click: Yes or No.
BS: I’m from Brooklyn and NJ, then went to college in Syracuse before moving to LA. I hate NY/NJ for being the only place in the world to get real pizza.
JM: You didn’t click either option, Mr. Stone. I’ll just go ahead and assume that you hate cats. Onward and upward. Do you feel that what you do makes any real difference within the communities you have been to?
BS: I don’t think I’m changing anything in the communities any more than I think Westboro has the power to destroy those communities. I simply try to turn their hate speech into something constructive like laughing at ignorance, and I just love being able to use my natural gifts for pissing people off for good.
JM: Well said, and good job — you’re already pissing me off, but in a lovely way. Comedy is obviously your way of getting a rather serious point across, but do you think that hinders the actual legitimacy of the points you are trying to make?
BS: I think comedy does the opposite, it’s very easy to ignore a serious point, but when it makes you laugh you’re pretty much admitting you agree on some level. A lot of people with no interest in sitting through a long speech about equality will absorb the same points if they’re being bribed with laughter.
JM: That’s actually a great point. I think a lot of racial issues have been much more well addressed through comedy than any other channel. For example: Richard Pryor, Lenny Bruce and Dave Chappelle all dealt with the issue in a charismatic and approachable manner that made us both laugh and think. With that being said, I too have found the quality of large black dildos to be vastly superior in audio quality to almost every other type of microphone technique. What brands do you prefer and why?
BS: I use the big black dildo you see in my videos for one reason: it was the cheapest one at the porn store. I didn’t make it a working dildo-mic because I mistakenly assumed they wouldn’t just talk into it, I was wrong.
JM: The most brilliant false assumption if there ever was one! What is the inspiration behind you doing what you do? Surely it is not just simply for the comedic value, but is there any specific reason or reasons that made you become so enveloped in this particular cause in the first place?
BS: I just saw counter protests of the WBC and thought I could upset them in a way holding funny signs doesn’t quite accomplish. I just had a huge desire to draw them into a conversation I know I could win and then just twist that knife for all the world to see. Because I know they’re wrong and I know I can prove it.
JM: This last question is the one that made me want to pick your brain a bit. It’s been bothering me for a while now, and It’s actually quite coincidental that you contacted me with your new video when you did. I just recently had a conversation about the WBC with a friend. His stance is to keep them exposed as the hate group they truly are — which was what I thought for a while as well. But my position now is more of the thought that the less exposure we allow them, and the more we just ignore them, the quicker they will crawl back into the caves they’re from and disappear.
I’m just wondering if that when we post what we do — get the hits, the views, the comments and the likes, etc. — is that not basically feeding a dragon fire? Does this not keep them in a spotlight we unwittingly created? I feel this is probably a question on a lot of people’s minds at this point, and who better to ask than the man in the thick of it?
BS: I think the idea that they would stop doing this if we stopped giving them attention is false and disproven through their history. The WBC were holding pickets for decades before Matthew Shepard’s death made them infamous. If they were not being recorded they’d still be taunting the parents of dead soldiers and gay people with identical zeal because that is their ideology, and those grieving parents are more than enough attention to satisfy them. Fred Phelps was holding personal protests against underage kissing and swear words on campus 40 years before anyone ever heard of his church. Fred uses scripture to legitimize his irrational rage and believes God wants him to do this, it’s not a scam, they’re not trolling, they aren’t turning a profit on this, it’s what they really believe. The idea that what I do somehow aids them is contradicted by their attitude toward me, they hate seeing me. I’ve watched their moods swing from empowerment and giddiness to rage and frustration with a few questions. No one who watches my videos ends up with a more positive view of these people because I make it easier to see how ridiculous and poorly thought out their beliefs are. They want to be seen as valid and important, I treat them like the joke they really are. I think the problem is taking them seriously, giving them the benefit of acting as though their ideas are dangerous by acting angry or intimidated when we should be using them as easy targets to ridicule and expose homophobia and bigotry in general.
Ignoring a bully just lets them feel like they’re getting away with it.
JM: Thanks for your time, brother!
BS: Thanks James!